Strategic Communication that Builds Bridges and Activates Change with Justin Lee, Melanie Klein, & Marc Cordon

Original Air Date Wednesday, February 27, 2019

Words can be a catalyst for change, alter our relationships, and bond us together.  But how often do we listen to someone else’s story before making a judgment?  When we disagree with someone else’s views which emotion comes out first, anger or joy? To get the secret sauce of communicating with anyone, Host, Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with three communication change agents. Justin Lee found himself in a part of two conventionally contradictory worlds, faith and sexuality. He shares the story of how he bridged the gap in his own life to create strategic dialogue to help others gain understanding. And, Melanie Klein and Marc Cordon cashed in their anger for joy to create a new motivation for social activism and change.


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Justin Lee — Open Dialogues and Strategic Communication:
  • In Justin’s book, Talking Across the Divide, he explains the importance of listening as the foundation for creating strategic dialogue.[1:49]
  • The power of storytelling and sharing with each other one-on-one, to gain understanding. [10:23]
  • As an Evangelical gay man, Justin has had the opportunity to share his story and change people’s minds. [14:45]
  • Finding commonalities can disrupt ‘team’ mentalities, and help humanity to communicate strategically. [20:16]
Melanie Klein & Marc Cordon — From the Rumble Comes the Revolution:
  • Melanie describes the process of using her angst and anger to move her forward, instead of holding her back. [27:55]
  • Marc decided he wanted to teach happiness courses for students, after decades of being angry all the time. [31:54]
  • False positives, social activism, the science of activation energy, and the two types of happiness. [35:17]
  • The Joy Revolution is a project that empowers people to amplify the amount of change they can make in their communities. [43:16]

Justin Lee has spent more than twenty years building bridges between conservatives and progressives on matters of faith and public policy. He is the founder of the world’s largest LGBT Christian advocacy organization and the author of two books, including the newly released Talking Across the Divide: How to Communicate with People You Disagree with and Maybe Even Change the World.

Book: Talking Across the Divide: How to Communicate with People You Disagree With And Maybe Even Change the World


Justin Lee Website
@geekyJustinLee on Twitter
Geeky Justin on Facebook
@GeekyJustinLee on Instagram

Melanie C. Klein, M.A., is a thought leader and influencer in the areas of body confidence, authentic empowerment, and visibility. She is also a successful writer, speaker, and professor of Sociology and Women’s Studies.






Marc Cordon (Core-Doan — like phone), MPH, is a professional speaker, and author of the book “Beyond Resilient: The Coach’s Guide to Ecstatic Growth.”  Before co-founding the Joy Revolution, Marc served as the Associate Director for the Office of Health Promotion, and the Office of Multicultural Programs & Services at Emory University.



Melanie Klein Website
@eudaemanic and @feministfatale on Twitter
Marc Cordon on Facebook

This episode of Harvesting Happiness Talk Radio is sponsored by:

H-Factor: Where is Your Heart? — Lisa’s documentary film that explores the journey of human happiness. Emotions are contagious and happiness is a universally-desired state. We tend to forget we all have the freedom to be happy or the liberty to be miserable each day.

Are We Happy Yet? Eight Keys to Unlocking a Joyful Life — A guidebook for learning how to harvest happiness through self-mastery. Happiness waits for no one and sometimes we all need support. What is getting in the way of your happiness right now?