Digital Addiction: Lured and Hooked on Technology by Design with Nir Eyal and Jordan Reid

Original Air Date Wednesday, September 23, 2020 

Taking time away from our digital devices is not easy.

Each bell and ding of app notifications was designed to hook us and keep us engaged. Many people don’t realize that the more attention they pay to their devices the less time they are engaged in the present moment. But, putting our devices down, even for a minute can cause anxiety and depression. To find out how we can take back our time and focus our attention on the important parts of the human experience, Positive Psychology Podcast Host, Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two authors who share their work about digital detox. Nir Eyal details his four strategies for becoming indistractable from his book, Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life. And, returning guest Jordan Reid, shares excerpts from her family life that enticed her to write The Big Activity Book for Digital Detox.

Nir Eyal — Overcome Your Digital Addiction and Get Things Done:
  • Nir explains his concept of Behavioral Design: how the seduction of technology has the ability to hijack our attention spans. [1:47]
  • Identifying your addiction: are you a shamer, blamer, or claimer of distracting technology? [5:14]
  • The 4 steps to becoming indistractable. [7:18]
  • How Nir builds indistractable relationships and lives with personal integrity. [24:17]

Nir Eyal writes, consults, and teaches about the intersection of psychology, technology, and business. Nir founded two tech companies since 2003 and has taught at the Stanford Graduate School of Business and the Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford. He’s also an active investor in habit-forming technologies.

Book: Indistractable: How to Control Your Attention and Choose Your Life


Indistractable Website

@nireyal on Twitter

Nir and Far on Facebook

@neyal99 on Instagram

Jordan Reid — Why a Digital Detox is Necessary:
  • How to get yourself and your family off of devices during COVIDmania. [27:59]
  • Strategies for finding a balance between real life and digital life. [32:17]
  • Is the corona crisis unleashing our authentic selves or is this how we are in panic mode? [40:21]
  • Jordan describes the research she is doing for her new book, The Big Activity Book for Divorced People. [48:00]

Jordan Reid is the founding editor of the lifestyle blog Ramshackle Glam and the author of two parenting and style memoirs. Her hobbies include creating unnecessary complications, insomnia, and maintaining an impressive collection of fake plants. She lives in California with her two children, twin orange cats, and a Roomba named Thanos.

Book: The Big Activity Book for Digital Detox


Ramshackle Glam Website

@ramshackle on Twitter

Ramshackle Glam on Facebook

@ramshackleglam on Instagram




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