Warehouses of Experience: Brain, Body, and Trauma with Dr. Paul Valent MD & Dr. Thomas Verny MD

Original Air Date Wednesday, May 25, 2022 

Have you ever read a book or heard a story of an unusually cruel or violent person and wonder what makes them capable of such atrocities?

A sound hypothesis would be that the person had a very difficult and painful childhood, suffering abuses beyond normal coping mechanisms. But, new discoveries suggest that stress and trauma can be passed from one generation to subsequent generations through RNA and DNA. Making humans truly an amalgam of their ancestors. To discover the impact our family of origin has on our cellular makeup and disposition, Positive Psychology Podcast Host Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two doctors who have a unique history about their fascinating work and the application of it to the healing and recovery process.

Dr. Paul Valent specializes in the harm people inflict on one another and why they do it. He is the author of Heart of Violence: Why People Harm Each Other which he discusses in detail. Dr. Thomas Verny is a clinical psychiatrist who has made strides in the discovery of cellular memory and how stress affects generations. His book, The Embodied Mind: Understanding the Mysteries of Cellular Memory, Consciousness, and Our Bodies investigates the storage of memories outside the brain, the impact of organ transplants, and epigenetics.

Dr. Paul Valent — Brain, Body, and Trauma:

  • In his book, Heart of Violence, Dr. Valent unpacks the reasons why people harm each other. [4:27]
  • Dr. Valent reveals a similar thread of people who harm other people, normally endured violence in their childhood. [7:
  • How hopefulness can impact the future and stop the destruction in the world. [18:06]
  • The events in Ukraine and the COVID pandemic have changed the world, Dr. Valent is optimistic that we will have learned something from them. [21:47]
  • Investigating Dr. Valent’s other works in trauma, mental health, violence, and therapies. [25:06]

Dr. Paul Valent MD in black suit , guest of podcast episode about trauma with Dr. Thomas Verny MDBorn in Bratislava, Slovakia, Dr. Paul Valent survived the Holocaust in Hungary, and in 1949 he and his parents moved to Australia. Dr. Valent studied medicine in Melbourne, then psychiatry in London. A psychiatrist and psychotherapist for 35 years, he co-founded the Australasian Society for Traumatic Stress Studies and the Child Survivors of the Holocaust group in Melbourne, Australia. He now devotes himself to writing.

Book: Heart of Violence: Why People Harm Each Other


Dr. Paul Valent
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Dr. Thomas Verny — Multi-generational Experiences:

  • Dr. Tihomas Verny shares his important discovery on cellular memory and cellular intelligence. [33:44]
  • Organ transplant recipients can take on certain characteristics of the organ donor. [39:35]
  • There is a high level of resistance by medical professionals to accept new learnings and understandings. [43:50]
  • Dr. Thomas  Verny describes examples of cellular memory and historical trauma in people and unborn children via RNA and DNA. [46:37]
  • Epigenetics is the study of how our genes are constantly changing based on our environments. [53:19]

Dr. Thomas Verny MD in red sweater, guest of podcast episode about trauma with Dr. Paul Valent MDThomas Verny is a clinical psychiatrist and the author of eight books, including The Secret Life of the Unborn Child, which was published in 27 countries and 47 scientific papers. He has previously taught at Harvard University, the University of Toronto, York University (Toronto), and St. Mary’s University. His most recent book is The Embodied Mind, Pegasus, New York.

Book: The Embodied Mind: Understanding the Mysteries of Cellular Memory, Consciousness, and Our Bodies


T.R. Verny MD
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“We’ve learned from history that people are resilient and how they have risen above circumstance, and transcended and transformed those circumstances to find post-traumatic growth.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Without mental health, we really don't have health.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet “When we don't have a proper language or outlet for the things that happen to us, it manifests perversely.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“The mind is bigger than the brain.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Violence is trying to survive your heart or maintain your love of yourself and those close to you.” — Dr. Paul Valent on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“I see a ray of hope. It is that the world is repulsed by what is going on.” — Dr. Paul Valent on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“It's possible that we will be so disgusted by what has gone on in Ukraine, around the world the nations will say that this will never happen again.” — Dr. Paul Valent on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“It is love that is going to get us through and give us resilience and survival.” — Dr. Paul Valent on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Talking isn't just talking, of course, it is giving words to things that bother us, that drive us in unhealthy directions.” — Dr. Paul Valent on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“How can a person with virtually no brain act or think normally?” @VernyMD on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Cells contain memories and they are passed on to the rest of the body.” @VernyMD on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Everyone knows octopuses have no brains and yet octopuses are super smart.” @VernyMD on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Medical doctors have a way of discounting what regular people say.” @VernyMD on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“If there is a personality transplant what is going to happen to a person who receives the heart of a pig or any other animal?” @VernyMD on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet



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