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Rule Breakers and Shift Stirrers

Original Air Date Wednesday, August 17, 2022 

Some people grimace when talking about their job in the corporate world. Common complaints are they must comply with orders, they feel their voice isn’t being heard, or they must conform to the status quo. And, then there are some who buck the system and break the rules to innovate and drive positive change. How can organizations change an employee’s experience to create constructive disruption? What new tools are available to retain creative, rebellionist talent?

To discover how we can regain personal agency and reduce the amount of control industry-focused cultures have over us, Harvesting Happiness Podcast Host Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two thought leaders about their books that can transform industries.

Francesca Gino is the author of Rebel Talent: Why it Pays to Break the Rules at Work and in Life. She shares her findings about rule breakers and why rebellious people create more and have deeper relationships.

Aaron Dignan describes the principles of his book, Brave New Work: Are You Ready to Reinvent Your Organization? and shares how he guides notable Fortune 500 companies through leadership techniques that encourage heart-nourishing, human-focused decisions.

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Meet Our Guests:

Rule Breakers and Shift Stirrers with Francesca Gino Ph.D. and Aaron Digna

Francesca Gino PhD is the Tandon Family Professor of Business Administration at Harvard Business School. She is the youngest woman to have achieved the rank of full professor at Harvard Business School. She has been honored as one of the world’s Top 40 Business Professors under 40 by Poets & Quants and one of the world’s 50 most influential management thinkers by Thinkers 50. She received her Ph.D. and MS in Economics and Management from the Santa Anna School of Advanced Studies in Italy and held postdoctoral positions at both HBS and Carnegie Mellon.

Book: Rebel Talent: Why it Pays to Break the Rules at Work and in Life

Francesca Gino — Rule Breakers:

  • The reasons we should become rebels go far beyond the amount of fun we have. {1:29}
  • How being a rebel allows us to view conflict from a different angle and approach the world with curious eyes. {3:42}
  • Rebels are innovative and creative individuals who drive positive change. {7:23}
  • In her book Rebel Talent, Francesca highlights the deeper connections that are formed when we are our authentic selves. {17:40}
  • In her Harvard classroom, Francesca talks about the concept of rebellion and constructive disruption. {20:40}

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Rule Breakers and Shift Stirrers with Francesca Gino Ph.D. and Aaron Digna

Aaron Dignan is the founder of The Ready, an organization design and transformation firm that helps institutions like Johnson & Johnson, Charles Schwab, and Microsoft change the way they work. He is a co-founder of responsive.org, an investor in purpose-driven startups, and a friend to misfit toys.

Book: Brave New Work: Are You Ready to Reinvent Your Organization?

Aaron Dignan — Shift Stirrers:

  • Aaron describes his book, Brave New Work, a leadership book that touches on the sweet spot of humanity. {26:43}
  • As Founder of The Ready, Aaron helps companies change the way they work and keep their magic. {29:26}
  • When employees feel they have a voice in what goes on at work it pays dividends. {36:10}
  • Aaron highlights some of the teamwork tools available to organizations in the new, virtual workplace. {37:39}
  • Aaron shares an example of a company that created value by leading with the heart. {41:18} 
  • How small businesses can apply Aaron’s operating system framework. {45:49}

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