Transformative Leadership: Inspiring Positive Connection, Courage, and Culture in the Workplace with Rob Dube & Kevin Hancock

Original Air Date Wednesday, October 14, 2020

Where does power reside within your workplace?

Is your company stuck in a trickle-down corporate leadership model where decision-making is only conducted by a few? Does the leadership team know or care about the level of employee engagement or employee satisfaction? Now may be the best time to reinvent the leadership strategy of an organization. In this episode, Positive Psychology Podcast Host, Lisa Cypers Kamen speaks with two change agents who have turned traditional leadership roles into inspiring social experiments. Rob Dube implements meditation and community strategies from his book, donothing at his business ImageOne and organizes donothing silent retreats for other business leaders. And, Kevin Hancock cares for his business, Hancock Lumber, based on the principles of his book, The Seventh Power, a book that documents the leadership epiphanies he experienced after losing his voice.

Rob Dube — How Meditation And Positive Connection Transforms Leadership:
  • After experiencing subtle life shifts during silent retreats, Rob was inspired to write his book, donothing, and organize donothing Retreats. [1:36]
  • How senses are heightened and leaders bond and create positive connections during the times of silence. [9:05]
  • The Simple Six are six things we should all do every day but sometimes forget. [17:31]
  • Rob Dube shares his entrepreneurial journey from selling blow pops out of his school locker to creating the business he loves today. [20:36]
  • At ImageOne, employees are entrusted to be authentic in the workplace and do their tasks without oversight. [26:10]

Man with black shirt in black and white, guest of podcast episode called Transformative Leadership: Inspiring Positive Connection, Courage, and Culture in the Workplace with Rob Dube & Kevin HancockEntrepreneur Rob Dube is an avid meditator of 13 years, the author of donothing™: the most rewarding leadership challenge you will ever take, and organizer of the donothing™ leadership silent retreat.

Book: donothing: The Most Rewarding Leadership Challenge You Will Ever Take



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Kevin Hancock — Dispersing Power:

  • Kevin describes his family business and how losing his voice turned into a leadership strategy to create positive connections. [32:25]
  • How Hancock Lumber changed when Kevin dispersed power instead of collecting it. [35:27] 
  • Creating an employee-centric company helped Hancock Lumber produce a meaningful and engaging workplace for its employees. [39:58]
  • Implementing the strategies from Kevin’s book, The Seventh Power in the workplace [45:48]
  • Kevin shares an epiphany he gained while walking through the desert. [56:47]

Man with blue shirt in a farm, guest of podcast episode called Transformative Leadership: Inspiring Positive Connection, Courage, and Culture in the Workplace with Rob Dube & Kevin HancockKevin Hancock is the CEO of Hancock Lumber. In 2010, at the peak of the national housing and mortgage market collapse, Kevin acquired a rare neurological voice disorder called Spasmodic Dysphonia (SD). When his own voice became weakened, he developed a new leadership style based on strengthening the voices of others. He is now a champion of a work culture where everyone leads and every voice is trusted, respected, and heard.

Book: The Seventh Power: One CEO’s Journey into the Business of Shared Leadership


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“I happened upon meditation when I was trying to get dominion over my mind.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“When people we work with don't have innate leadership built into them we are shorting our investment in them.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“If employees feel seen, heard, and valued they are less likely to leave.” @LisaKamen on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Silent retreats can be more impactful than a daily practice.” @RobDDube on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“During silent retreats, your senses are heightened and you start to notice things and people in a deeper way.” @RobDDube on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“As a company, if we are not sleeping enough, we help each other get more sleep by sharing restful tips.” @RobDDube on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“We were trying to make things work to the best of our abilities, we just didn't have a lot of abilities.” @RobDDube on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“We engulfed ourselves into the conceptual idea of caring for the totality of our team member’s lives first and doing everything we could possibly do as an organization to lift them up. Click To Tweet“When you walk into our place you feel a hospitable sense of things and there is a lot of laughing and fun. And, thank goodness it translates into a successful business.” @RobDDube on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“If you are a CEO your tool is your voice. Suddenly, I couldn't use mine.” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“Most people don’t need a CEO-centric solution or directive. What they need is encouragement and confidence to trust and follow their own voice.” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“I thought, what if they all led? Wouldn't that create a more agile, dynamic, and successful company and a more valuable social institution?” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“In the US, employee engagement runs around 33%. What a tragic number that is. 2 out of 3 people in America are not engaged at work.” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet “People are much more apt to support that which they helped to create.” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet“In nature, power is dispersed.” @hancocklumber on @HH_TalkRadio Click To Tweet



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